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Inside NSW jails with Nick: The cracked perspex and the threat to his family
<p>If you heard our full episode on 2 October, you have already had this one. This is Luke's chat with Nick on its own, for anyone who just wants the prison stories.</p><p><br></p><p>Nick was a NSW prison officer for 15 years, at Lithgow and at the women's jail at Emu Plains. In B unit, he watched an inmate crack the perspex with a pool ball, and he tells Luke why he says three months of training was mostly about paperwork.</p><p><br></p><p>He explains why officers walk the yard unarmed and why he says they couldn't properly search visitors' prams. Then there's the inmate who threatened his family. Nick's view is that most prisoners don't want to be rehabilitated. The ones who do, like the woman who left jail a qualified chef, get there because they want the help, he says.</p><p><br></p><p><em>This interview contains strong language. It discusses sexual assault in prison, domestic violence and the death of a prison officer.</em></p><p><br></p><p>1800RESPECT: 1800 737 732 (24/7)</p><p>Lifeline: 13 11 14 (24/7)</p><p>In an emergency, call 000.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Should prisoners get a second chance?</p><p>01:46 Why the inmates called Nick Chief</p><p>02:45 Why he swapped his own business for a prison job</p><p>04:45 Trapped in B unit when the perspex cracked</p><p>07:14 Three months of training, signed off on paper</p><p>08:02 The officer who died at Silverwater</p><p>09:00 Double shifts and big overtime</p><p>10:31 His sister, assaulted at Parramatta Gaol</p><p>11:06 Unarmed in a yard of 30 inmates</p><p>13:40 Why officers couldn't search prams</p><p>14:48 Who really controls a jail?</p><p>16:22 Case management with no training</p><p>17:45 The inmates who care for injured wildlife</p><p>18:53 Should prisoners be paid $25 an hour?</p><p>19:30 The kiss that smuggled drugs into Lithgow</p><p>21:35 Corrupt officers: blue, not green</p><p>22:22 Why lifers are the easiest to manage</p><p>23:53 Why he'd rather work with maximum security men</p><p>25:10 What men fear most about going to jail</p><p>26:26 The inmate who walked out a chef</p><p>28:12 Knives in the kitchen and a Shawshank moment</p><p>29:55 Why are Indigenous Australians over-represented?</p><p>32:21 Do prisoners want to be rehabilitated?</p><p>34:08 The inmate who threatened his family</p><p>36:32 Seen as weak, or called a dog</p><p>38:30 The prisoners who come back for the security</p><p>40:16 Should prisoners have to work?</p><p>41:29 Get out of the job or I&#