Can Gadi Eisenkot end the Netanyahu era? Plus Richard Dawkins on AI and selfish genes

Israel's opposition leader Gadi Eisenkot has been asked to form the next government, putting an end to Benjamin Netanyahu's long political dominance. The former army chief now faces the task of assembling a governing coalition and navigating Israel's deep political divisions. Plus, Professor Richard Dawkins reflects on fifty years since writing The Selfish Gene, where developments in artificial intelligence might take us, and whether he's at risk of a death-bed conversion to believing in god.

Guests:

Irris Makler, veteran Israel correspondent

Professor Richard Dawkins, evolutionary biologist and author

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