Unconditional: A Tale of Two Mothers

Today we bring you a special episode from one of our favorite shows: STORIES by Lea Thau. This is a story of two mothers and what each did out of love, fear, and desperation, as told by their daughter, Deborah Jiang-Stein. At 19,  Deborah was pulled over with a trunk load of dope, a .38 revolver, and a 10” switch blade, yet she avoided going to a women’s prison like the one in which she’d been born.

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More about STORIES by Lea Thau

Lea Thau is a Peabody Award winning producer who created the beloved storytelling podcasts, Strangers and The Moth, and she’s back with a new podcast called STORIES by Lea Thau. Over the summer, she released some old fan favorites from Strangers with updates, and she just launch a new storytelling series that takes place in New York in the ‘90s. Her paying subscribers on Patreon and Substack loved it when she released it there, and it is now available FOR FREE wherever you get your podcasts. You can also follow STORIES by Lea Thau on Facebook and Instagram.

Deborah Jiang-Stein is author of the memoir Prison Baby, and the story collection Lucky Tomorrow, and she is founder & CEO of the unPrison Project, and to date, her work has reached more than 10% of female prisoners in the U.S., which the fastest growing prison population in the country, outpacing men 2-1. 

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